Please help - Identification 651-4

Good day,

please help identify my new 651-4 tractor. Nowhere can I find the year of manufacture according to the number on the nameplate.

Tractor type: R 7464
Serial number: 6421945

Thank you in advance

Bonjour,

Et bienvenue sur le site de l'Amicale du Tracteur Renault (ATR).
Votre tracteur Renault 651.4 type technique 7464 N° de série 6421945 a été fabriqué à l'usine Renault tracteurs du Mans en avril 1976.
Amicalement.


Hello,



And welcome to the Amicale du Tracteur Renault (ATR) website.

Your Renault tractor 651.4 technical type 7464 serial number 6421945 was manufactured at the Renault tracteurs factory in Le Mans in April 1976.

Best regards.

Thank you very much.

Is it possible to find out anything else about the tractor from the serial number?

Bonjour,

Votre tracteur Renault 651.4 type technique 7464 N° de série 6421945 a été fabriqué à l'usine Renault du Mans en avril 1976. Ce tracteur est équipé du moteur MWM type 227.4, 4 cylindres refroidissement liquide et injection directe de 3770 cm3 de cylindrée développant 65 ch. DIN au régime nominal de 2350 t/mn.
La transmission est la transmission Renault avec BV 4 vitesses avant synchronisées et réducteur offrant ainsi 12 vitesses avant et 3 marches arrière, le pont arrière est à couple conique et réductions droites. Ce tracteur est équipé du relevage Renault Tracto-Control de dernière génération avec contrôle d'effort automatique positif et négatif par les bielles inférieures de traction.
Amicalement.

Hello,
Your Renault 651.4 technical type 7464 tractor serial number 6421945 was manufactured at the Renault plant in Le Mans in April 1976. This tractor is fitted with the MWM type 227.4 engine, 4 liquid-cooled cylinders and direct injection with 3770 cm3 of displacement developing 65 ch. DIN at nominal speed of 2350 rpm.
The transmission is the Renault transmission with 4 synchronized forward speed gearbox and reduction gear thus offering 12 forward speeds and 3 reverse gears, the rear axle has bevel gear and straight reductions. This tractor is fitted with the latest generation Renault Tracto-Control linkage with automatic positive and negative force control via the lower traction rods.
Best regards.

I would also like to know if it is possible to get an electrical diagram for this model for lighting, engine, dashboard, etc ...
What color was used in that year, if there were more colors, or just red ?
And can they get spare parts ?

I would like to renovate the tractor.

Thank you very much for the information, I will send an inquiry to the email.

So far, I have found a specification of the filling for the tractor on the Internet, but unfortunately the translation from French into Czech is not very easy for me, as it is a technical name.

I need help translating at least into English.

The engine in winter is written oil HD sup 1 SAE 10W / .....?
The engine in the summer is written oil HD sup 1 SAE 20 .....?

The oil specification itself is not completely accurate, or am I wrong?

What do these terms mean in English translation?

Pont avant
Pont arriere
Relevage
Boite de vitesses
Boite, pont relevage
Trains épicycloidaux
Articulations - transmissions (roulements)
Poulie de battage

I don't know what oil belongs where.

For hydraulics, transmission, front and rear differential

Which table is correct?





The first table describes only 3 types of oils and the second table lists other types of oils. Is it possible to get them all, or are there any other substitutes?
Likewise, the engine coolant is not entirely clear to me which is correct.

I'm sorry to burden you so much with such questions, but I don't want to ruin something on the tractor.

Bonjour,

Ne pas tenir compte du second tableau de préconisation de lubrifiants qui traite des lubrifiants anciens.
Le liquide de refroidissement est le liquide de refroidissement pour automobiles Renault.
Pont avant == front axle
Pont arrière == rear axle
Relevage == lifting system
Boite de vitesses == gear box
Boite, pont relevage == Gearbox, rear axle, lifting system
Trains épicycloïdaux == epicyclic trains
Articulations - transmissions (roulements) == Joints - transmissions (bearings)
Poulie de battage == threshing pulley

Amicalement.



Hello,



Do not take into account the second lubricant recommendation table which deals with old lubricants.

The coolant is the coolant for Renault automobiles.

Best regards.

If I understand correctly according to the first table. So will I use only two types of oils?

To the engine: ELF Tractorenault T2
- or standard equivalent replacement: MIL L 46152 API CC SAE 15W30

And for transmission, front and rear axles, hydraulics, etc... according to the corresponding standard: MIL l 2105 API GL4

And coolant antifreeze for engine is yellow ?

Bonjour,

L'huile multifonctionnelle Elf Tractorelf (ou Tractorenault) ST 2 15W 30 correspond aux 2 normes MIL L 46152 API CC SAE 15W30 et MIL l 2105 API GL4. En conséquence cette même huile convient pour le moteur, la transmission et l'hydraulique.
Amicalement.



Hello,

The multifunctional oil Elf Tractorelf (or Tractorenault) ST 2 15W 30 corresponds to the 2 standards MIL L 46152 API CC SAE 15W30 and MIL l 2105 API GL4. Consequently, this same oil is suitable for the engine, transmission and hydraulics.
Best regards.

I searched the internet and found only this: Tractorelf ST3 15W-30

I can't find oil from ELF with marked ST2, can I use the mentioned type of ST3?

Renault engine coolant is yellow? Like universal?

Bonjour,

Vous pouvez utiliser l'huile multifonctionnelle Elf ST 3 sans problème.
Le liquide de refroidissement Renault est de couleur jaune.
Amicalement.

Hello,

You can use Elf ST 3 multifunctional oil without any problem.
Renault coolant is yellow in color.
Best regards.

Thank you very much again.
If it didn't matter, I'd write again when I didn't know what to do.

Good day,

I have another question about on-board instruments. The figure shows both instrument indicators. I marked the lights in yellow, which are also on our tractor, but I don't know what they are for. Do you know what they are for? Thank you

Bonjour,

Sur la première photo il s'agit du témoin de frein à main.
Sur la seconde photo il s'agit du témoin de colmatage du filtre à air sec du moteur. Ce témoin n'est pas utilisé sur votre tracteur puisque équipé d'un filtre à air à bain d'huile.
Amicalement.

Hello,

On the first photo it is the handbrake warning light.
The second photo shows the engine dry air filter clogging indicator. This warning light is not used on your tractor since it is equipped with an oil bath air filter.
Best regards.

Good day,

I would like to replace the oil filter in the oil fill, unfortunately I can't find the part number anywhere. In the picture it is part = D
I have already ordered all other filters, only I miss this one. Is it possible to find him somewhere?
Or can it just be cleaned and put back?

Thank you

Bonsoir,

Le panier filtrant (D) de filtre à air n'est pas à remplacer mais à nettoyer par brassage dans un bain de GO propre, ensuite bien laisser égoutter avant repose.
Il faudra également vidanger l'huile et gratter le fond de cuve (E) pour éliminer la poussière accumulée au fond de cuve. Après nettoyage refaire le plein d'huile moteur neuve jusqu'au repère sur cuve, replacer le panier filtrant et la cuve sur le filtre à air
Amicalement.

Good evening,

The filter basket (D) of the air filter is not to be replaced but to be cleaned by stirring in a clean GO bath, then allow to drain well before refitting.
It will also be necessary to drain the oil and scrape the bottom of the tank (E) to remove the dust accumulated at the bottom of the tank. After cleaning, top up with new engine oil up to the mark on the tank, replace the filter basket and the tank on the air filter
Yours sincerely.

Good day,

Please information whether the type tractor R7464 has a serial number (VIN) somewhere on the frame, or whether it is only on the diamond label on the tank.

Thank you very much.

Good day to,
Yes,vin number is présent on the frame,marked on the right side near oil filter ,perhaps ,necessary to open the hood on it ?the number start and finish with a diamond.
Have a nice day.

Good day,

please, give me an advice. What pressure in Bars should the hydraulic pump have for type 651-4 (R 7464)

Bonjour,

La pression hydraulique disponible avec le moteur à 1500 t/mn doit être de 160 bars.
Amicalement.

Hello,

The hydraulic pressure available with the engine at 1500 rpm must be 160 bars.
Best regards.

Thank you very much

Hello,

after measuring the pump on the hydraulics, the pressure is 160 Bar and on the outlet for the lift. blade, etc., the pressure is 140 Bar - so it works well.

But I would still need to know what pressure in Bars is on the second steering pump. I have a double on my tractor. Is it the same as the 160 Bar for hydraulics, or must it be a little lower?

Thank you

Bonjour,

La pression maxi disponible sur le circuit de direction hydrostatique est de 105 bars.
Amicalement.

Hello,

The maximum pressure available on the hydrostatic steering circuit is 105 bars.
Best regards.

Bonsoir,

Cela veut-il dire qu'une huile qui n'aurait que la norme :

MIL L 46152 API CC SAE 15W30 : Serait Ok pour le moteur mas pas pour la transmission

MIL l 2105 API GL4 : Serait Ok pour la transmission mais pas pour le moteur ?

Merci de vos retours.